Well, I didn’t have any expectations, to be honest with you. I was there, you know, I was a fuzzy cheek little kid kind of learning the ropes. I’d only worked in a zoo for, what was it, two and a half years at, at Brookfield. So it was all new to me and I didn’t have any expectations. I, I knew it was gonna grow and everybody in the administration of the National Zoo was involved in the planning. We used to have, I dunno, they were weekly or monthly planning meetings. So Ed Cohen would be out there, the deputy director and Reid didn’t always go, but Eisenberg would be there, KLEMEN was there, and Jaron Horsley and various people would be there. And we’d talk about the collection and in very general terms.
