But she was a teacher that was so engrossed in these topics herself that her enthusiasm was infectious. And so a number of kids really got into it. And I was one of them. And then from the planets, we got to the gravitation of the moon on the earth and the tides and low tides and high tides and how the inner tidal zone was exposed with all these really weird creatures, CESE and sea urchins and neu, Debra and her daughter became an expert on neuter ranks. So, so she offered to take me and a couple of other kids on Saturday field trips several times. So we went to the beach and we collected invertebrates in the intertidal zone. It was during the real low tides, you know, and it was great. I really got into it. And my parents never did anything to discourage my interest in wildlife.
