And there was seal rock was out there. And the big, big thing was we’re gonna see the sea lions or the, she called ’em the seals and there were stellar sea lions and maybe California’s out there too, but they just looked like big yellow things on the rock. But that was a big treat for me. And as I grew older, I became interested. Well, I, I was always interested in mammals, but I went through the phases of vertebrate interest that many boys go through. And so I went through a phase, whereas interested in amphibians and reptiles and then birds and mammals. And I had a school teacher who was a very important mentor for me because I had screwed up in school. I wasn’t learning to read because I wasn’t learning how to spell.
