I don’t think it’ll ever change. I think when it come to the big funds, if you really wanna get the job done and particularly if you’re really trying to create a long-term relationship with a donor, the director has got to be there. I mean, it may not neither at the first day, because you might not know that donor is gonna be a big donor long time but at some point in time, I firmly believe that if you’re looking for major support, that doesn’t mean that donor gets access to you the first day they walk in the door. They kinda, a little bit earned it. But, and so maybe the bigger institutions, it takes longer for ’em to work their way to the director doing the donor. But at some point the director is still, I mean, is the person that I believe your big donors wanna interact with. And a little institution like mine, many of ’em got interaction with me from day one because I was the whole development department. And so they, so, and I said my staff, every one of them has development people, but the director is definitely, development is not somebody else’s job at the zoo.
