Well, I mean, to me at that point in time, it was this big, wonderful place. It was older, the buildings were older, but they didn’t strike me at that point of being, knowing what we know today, they didn’t strike me as being inefficient or inappropriate in any way. Yeah, I thought some of the… Having come from the dog kennel side, the big cat cages just looked like giant dog kennels to me. But I thought as long as you could give some stimulation to the creatures, it was what there was and I didn’t think one way or the other about it as being a good experience for the visitor or the public or bad experience. I just thought that’s what a zoo was. And you’re a volunteer. How did you work into a, “We’ll pay you money?” Because I was willing to do some night shifts and things like that.
