So, if you can get your development staff to really care about the institution, they don’t even have to beat development people. They just have to be people who care about their jobs and care about what we do and are willing to talk to people about it and follow through. And that works really well and still does to today. So, all my curators, I told ’em all, you’re all in the development department, my vets in the development department. And so, I can go to somebody and say, “Hey, Kevin, that’s the vet.
