And so, we need to do this. We were also a member of the AABGA, the American Association of Botanical Gardens. And I said, “No, we have to be.” And I was a great believer in professional memberships and these kinds of organizations, because we were so far in the middle of nowhere that if we didn’t have any kind of professional contact, it’s the only way we were gonna get it is through being part of professional organizations and I encouraged my staff to join and to go to meetings. I always found money for them to go to meetings. As soon as I had professional staff, I expected them to go to meetings and I expected them to get involved in professional organizations.
