So, I said to her one day, “I need a curator of education at Living Desert, somebody to help me explain the desert to people and develop a program for kids and adults and everything else, would you like to do that?” And she thought it would be great fun to do, and I just turned her loose to do it. I’m a great believer of hiring people I think will do the job, letting them show me they can do the job, and if they continue to show me they do the job, I just leave them alone and let them do it. I don’t have the energy or time to micromanage anybody. If I have to I’ll fire ’em and get somebody else I don’t have to micromanage. And that was always the way I was, and because she didn’t come to the job as a professional educator with a certain set of boxes, she came to the job as somebody that loves the desert, was well-educated herself and very articulate, was a mother of three young daughters, pretty well connected in the community because of her social standing. She just followed her instincts and they were really good instincts. And so, our programs were fairly traditional, but they weren’t developed using all the educational buzzwords. They were designed to get kids, obviously, school kids, but also adult programs, adults and kid programs together.
