So, I would wind up on TV, but not in a big activist role because my board didn’t want us to be an activist organization. So, I painted us as a place where everybody could come and learn about the desert that the developers could come and learn if they wanted us to come and look at their property and tell ’em what’s on it and what, we would do that and not, we would work with ’em. So, we stayed out of until this day, we painted ourself as an organization that was there as an educational tool for everybody, not as an environmental activist organization per se.
