So, it wasn’t easy to raise money there, but there was money there and there was, Mr. Boyd had access to it because he was first mayor of the city of Palm Springs and so forth and so on. So, and he had a good reputation, and so his friends would follow along and chip in just as donors do today. If their buddy has given to somethin’, maybe they’ll give a little bit to it too. And I turned a lot of water into wine, but I was good at that ’cause that’s how I grew up. I had to turn a lot of water into wine because I had to, to live and feed myself and go to college. And there was no such thing as a loan. We never took a loan at Living Desert to do anything. I either had to have all the money in place or we didn’t do it.
