And I think that has hurt a number of programs that I thought were good programs. The other change is when you look at staffing nowadays, and I’ve had this conversation with a lot of my peers in the past, is I think we didn’t do our job in mentoring some of the professionals that are in the zoo profession now, because they, they in my opinion, don’t get the bigger picture of what a zoo can or should be doing towards conserving and managing specimens and and species. And I think that’s a real issue. You’re getting a lot of young curators that are coming in that just do not have the depth and background to understand it. And that has changed the nature of the profession, I think, and how they approach things. And to me it’s hindered some things, which I’m sure we’ll talk about later.
