I think you see the picture behind me, I’m standing there with who was his face. We, we were in DC at a ceremony and I got what was called a conservation hero of the year. And you know, he promotes su there were a few others out there that did that. But over overall, no, I don’t think there is. Should there be? I don’t know. I don’t know if there should be. Well, we talk about the being a student of the game, knowing your profession, and it would appear, in your opinion, it would appear that very few people to know who Heine Heger was and, you know, being the father of Zum Biology and his writings and his books or seminal papers like Bill Conway’s to be a bullfrog or how to exhibit one.
