Well, I think we need to collaborate more with private individuals so that we gain more space. ’cause zoos are, if we talked about our limited space, I think we have to be very pragmatic about what it is we’re trying to accomplish. If we’re trying to accomplish sustainability of a population in a zoo, then we need to be willing to use all the management tools available to us. And some of those tools are tools that are hard to explain to the public. And I think they’re only hard is because in the beginning when it became an object of talk, like euthanasia, I don’t think we handled it right back then. And it’s kind of put us behind the book now and there’s expectations from it. So yeah, it, it’s, it’s a tough situation. But I think there’s ways of doing it from both expanding our, our housing capability through partnerships and collaborations as well as coming back to reality of what managing a population is about.
