And so to me, and it’s the project manager, I, what I like to do is, and there’s some great companies out there, I, I’d mentioned Pat and some, there’s some others I said, but I, what I really like to do as a part of who I bring into it, our local architects, now, they may not have zoo experience or they may have zoo experience, but the purpose of that is they take an ownership, it’s community and they want to be able to brag about, oh, you know, I help, I help the zoo, I help build this. And so bringing them in can get some inkind services. Maybe, maybe you get all the concrete donated ’cause you’re gonna go to one concrete company and you know, I got a thousand yards of concrete if I gotta use it. So you, you incorporate the locals into this as well. And I, and I tell ’em, I said, it’s a holistic experience. It’s not, it’s not, even though it’s about the animal, it’s about everything else that helps the zoo sustain itself. Marketing, fundraising, pr, the administration, they, they’ve gotta support what you’re going to do with that exhibit.