And of course at the time, that was something everyone did. So I grew up on a creek hunting, and you know, back then parents let you out of the house and out of their sight all day long. And it’s like they’d ring the bell and you should show up for supper, otherwise they weren’t worried about you. Well, most of the time I spent down in a place called Hall Creek and fished. I grew up trapping, as I said, and learned what I call conservation trapping and stuff. So we didn’t empty out places, camped all the time. And snakes. Snakes were there. And that’s what caught my attention.