These were the main breeding groups I built up to reach a self-sustainable breeding group. So this was very good. And it was a time full of work. At that time, the curators did all the import/export work and since we’ve have good breeding successes, we had to export, especially, a lot of specimens. Sometimes new animals came in and I was always very keen to be on site when we introduced new specimens, to observe them before they were introduced, their behavior, their relationship with the new specimens, and so on. So it was a very happy time.