Of course, there are not domesticated but tamed elephants in Asia. But this is another very bad chapter. The influence between Europe and Asia in keeping elephants. There are Asian zoos, where elephants are chained maybe 22 hours a day, which is horrible, chained single. And then Europeans say, oh, that’s the traditional way of keeping elephants. So I think we really should go on with keeping elephants and treat them as wild species without human interference and to keep them in social groups. And reaching such an aim, I think there is no longer any reason to question the keeping of elephants. Now you’ve retired from the directorship of the Frankfurt Zoo.