Of course now it’s fashionable to speak of global breeding programs and I’ve been the EEP coordinator for gorillas, which is probably, beside elephant and dolphins, the most difficult one because every gorilla, or a lot of gorillas are known by the keeper, by the director, by the grader, by the board, even by the politicians and the visitors. And so they all want to speak where to go, where to send the gorilla. And so there are some circumstances that we included Australia in the EEP for gorillas. And in my view, it failed because the Australians take what they want, especially with artificial breeding techniques, without asking the EEP coordinator. That was one difficulty. And the other difficulty is they suggested places to transfer gorillas to that I’ve never heard before. And you can have an overview of the collections in your region but not in a region very far away. And therefore, I think the way to do it is to have the regional breeding programs but to have a very close cooperation between the regional programs, between the regional coordinators.
