In Frankfurt, we didn’t have a special assigned facility keeping animals. We only worked with the animals on public viewing. But I was very proud that I was able to appoint a curator for science. Although I do not think, and that was a, insofar quite good, as the person was zoologist and vet so she could care for both fields. But I think, especially in Europe, we just do not have the personal and financial capacity to do in depth research ourself. I think the most important thing is to coordinate university research and to direct and help university people doing research in the zoo, mostly with PhD work. But I was always very much in favor and we have had some great work done, especially on apes, for example. We have had some excellent students doing really fundamental work.