But Martin, whom I knew very well for a long time, hasn’t had any zoo biological background. And so the Frankfurt Zoo people said, we are not going to teach our future director and they really started a very naughty campaign against Martin. And so he resigned before starting working as director and I was approached by my late superior with a I’m still available. And I said, I haven’t heard anything negative from you. I, of course, knew everything from the newspaper, but she didn’t tell me anything. And so in the second round, I was elected director. And for me, it was very important that my successor was for me, that was Richard Faust. And the main drive to apply for this position was Frankfurt Zoological Society because it was always a combination, Frankfurt Zoological Society and Frankfurt Zoo.
