I was approached by two persons in the surrounding of Frankfurt Zoo and Frankfurt Zoological Society says that advertisement for the director in Frankfurt was meant for me. And so I thought, well, let’s try, let’s see whether I can make it or not, without thinking very much. And it was a very long way to become director because in the first round, we’ve had three. I can name the other two because they were named in daily newspaper. It was Jurgen Lungen, Crayton Berlin, and it was Martin Fischer, a scientist. And the election committee was divided. Half was for me and half was for Jurgen Lungen. And so Martin Fischer was the one elected.
