And with this, they want to make it difficult to keep certain species, for example, elephants and polar bears. So I think this commission is really important for the zoos. And I was president of this commission when we have had excellent relationship. The secretary, who was a vocal person in this commission, was another student of Heini Hediger and a good friend of me. It looks like you are a family, but it worked everything correctly. But we understood each other and it was a very, very good working team, I think.
