And they said, it doesn’t work, two German-speaking men. You have to have one German-speaking, one French-speaking, and you have to have one man and one woman. And so we tried to select a French-speaking lady and we finally succeeded. And I think this commission is very important. Probably not so much for societies, which is more or less routine nowadays. But the minimum cage requirement, that’s a very, very important thing. And the point that is usually not understood is minimum cage requirements are not optimal cage requirements. And for example, Germany has now big, big difficulties insofar as animal rights organizations are in their commission and they, always think of optimal cage requirement, which are huge.
