Well, the master planning in Zurich was done under the directorship of Alex Ruble. And in Frankfurt, I did, I was a head of the team for the master plan. And by the way, I think it was the first zoo master plan in any German zoo in Frankfurt. I think it’s very, very important to include a lot of different people. I always included all the creators, I included the vets. I included the educational department. I included the head keepers. I always included the keeper that takes over this exhibit afterwards for the internal discussions.
