In Europe, we have one zoo-based conservation organizations that is really big and of great importance, that’s Frankfurt Zoological Society, to which we’ll probably come later. It is similar to the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York. And this Frankfurt Zoological Society was started by Bernhard Grzimek and he loved the Serengeti. So Grzimek tried to start a daughter organization in Switzerland. Switzerland and Germany, we work very well and very good together but we sometimes do not like the Germans so much. And therefore, it was important to have a Swiss organization for conservation in Tanzania. And we have had a Swiss citizen living half time in Tanzania, half time in Switzerland. He was more or less the founder, together with Grzimek.
