In the ’60s, ’70s, it was quite difficult to get in contact with fellow curators. And in fact, in the German-speaking countries, most curators attended the annual meeting of the German Society of Mammalogists. And so we formed the Bamberg Rebels during one of these mammalogy meetings. But, of course, one learned to know each other. And at that time, pre-laptop time, we exchanged cables, we telephoned a lot, we exchanged letters. And the transfer of animals usually went with individual zoos, surplus and wanted lists that usually were mailed about every two, three months to usually about 100, 200 zoos. And they were written on a typewriter and mailed by post. So it’s a totally different decade than we have nowadays with our laptops.