Germany, especially Germany, is a very specific country. The zoo organization in Germany is the oldest worldwide, and it’s called (speak in foreign language). It’s the Association of German Zoo Directors and since this, how it was actually done, it was zoo directors only. But the zoo directors couldn’t produce enough interest in lectures for their animal meetings, and therefore, they invited individual curators to give a lecture on a specific theme. And we assistants and curators thought it’s a bad thing. We fight for the same thing. We share knowledge, and so on. And therefore we tried to be included in the German zoo director’s association.