You can’t come into a zoo that’s got substandard or small exhibits or animals that are sleeping and not doing anything and look miserable all the time and say, yeah, but we’re giving millions of dollars to conservation. It doesn’t work that way. The first thing you have to look at is, is, is your zoo. It’s just like when pe when boards are hiring, when they’re hiring for zoo directors. The first thing I say, and I talked to search firms, I said, have them when you get to the finalists, have them the subset of search committee go to that zoo. Don’t tell the zoo director, walk around that zoo and see, see what they could interview really well, but see how they run their zoo, you know, and, and see how that is. I also think they should spend more time with the spouse because when you’re in a zoo, you’re, it is your whole life. This is, this is, this is a 24 hour job. Yeah. Again, you need balance and all that crap. Yeah. It’s, yeah.
