Yes. Again, the end justifies the mean means. Jack Hannah was a clown on TV with David Letterman. But people liked him and he brought attention to stuff. And he really was committed to conservation. He, that’s the only way he could do it. That Jack was Jack, you know, he had to, he had to, and he didn’t enjoy sometimes playing that game with Letterman. But he, but that’s what got him it. And like you said, it, it, when there was a, a crisis or some something, a, a unique development in a zoo, an animal escape.
