In 1986 I did a copy and a conservation project. And when you start doing papers at a ZA conferences, that, that’s, that certainly helps your resume. And, and also helped me, you know, and then I went back to San Diego. But those, those years in Miami were, were also a lot of fun. And that’s when I really had my first real supervisor job. And then now I was a curator, so now I could go back to San Diego with curator experience. So I leapfrogged all my, all all the guys that I was working with that would’ve been there longer than me because they didn’t have curator experience. I, I didn’t plant it that way, but I had curator on re they didn’t.
