Just dogs. And my mom took care of ’em more than I did. I, I wasn’t the kid that went out there. I, and picked up everything and collected everything. I was fascinated with it. But again, a second grade, I think it started there. There’s not one moment in my life that the light bulb went on, but I had a great second grade teacher, a PhD teacher, Dr. Brubaker. She read a Scarlet Charlotte’s Web, you know, the book with the spider in the pig. And that really, I, I just, I remember that so much.
