I’ll figure that one out too. But conservation’s different, it’s much more complex ’cause you have to cooperate with other people. And most of these, most of these people made their money not by cooperating, not by diversifying but by taking big risks and it worked for them. So, you know, white Oak is a good example. You know, we have a, the White Oak Conservation Center in Yulee, Florida was, was founded by a guy named Howard Gilman. And he hired John Lucas and he who from the Wildlife Conservation Society, Bronx Zoo. And he let John have free reign on what to do. And, and he combined his arts background Gilman with, with animals.
