Well, again, they usually come in with the technical skills, but they don’t have the, the hands-on abilities. So I would send them to other zoos to benchmark and, and, and it’s a network too, so they get to know other people. ’cause a lot about leadership is, is, is about working with other leaders and, and Curatives have to learn also to delegate and to develop their staff. And professional development is so important these days. You gotta send your your keepers to conferences and workshops. You can’t let them work in a bubble. It doesn’t work that way anymore. We’re talking about your staff, but then you mentioned the what restroom and what visitors would see.