Well, let me start with Charlie Schroder’s. He was asked that question in a book called Mr. Zoo. And, and Charlie’s answer was, you go to the restrooms and if the bathrooms are clean, then you know they’re taking good care of the animals. That’s a quote from Charlie Schroeder, the, the, the, you know, the, the icon director of the San Diego Zoo. But it’s more than just clean bathrooms. What makes a good zoo is you have to have staff that is really good at what they do. They, the animal staff especially, you can’t just put ’em in front of an exhibit and say, talk to the public. You know, they, they have to, they have to be trained to do that.
