But the initial conversation, and this was off, this was off the line because I wasn’t part of the selection committee, I was told not to be involved, but this is Lee, he’s my friend, you know, and he wanted to know from me and I worked with the, I worked with the search committee too on the side to make sure that Lee was by far the best candidate they could have hired for that. Because now we had the money. Lee was a designer and a builder and now he, he had, he had the foundation to do that. The zoo was making a lot of money, you know, thanks to the CEO was very good at that. And so he inherited a zoo. He had the re you give Lee the resources and he’s gonna give you some of the best exhibits that any zoo director could do. He’s, he’s a very talented guy. He is got a law degree and a degree in architect architecture.