And, and, and they all remembered it and they all liked it, you know, because you weren’t critical back then you, but, but it was, and then I built on that. And so, so you know, you, you, you, you, you start accumulating all this stuff. So I think my management style was a combination of what I learned from other people. But what worked for Rick, I, I think sometimes I was always very upfront with people and, and my opinion, but I tried not to dominate even though maybe I usually have the final say in, in, in a lot of the animal stuff.
