So she had the, the board chair then was somebody that was much more geared to the, the, the revenue side of it rather than the conservation side of it. I, it was good. It was, it was just the, I was 63 and I knew I still had another zoo left of me. If I want, not many zoos are gonna hire somebody in their sixties. Even though I, for I, you know, I’m pretty, I was a pretty young 63 at the time, but it allowed me to do more consulting and then, and then, and then develop what I had been talking about for 20 years. You know, my own my own facility. So, so that, that, that was pretty much it. I had 15 years at the Houston Zoo and I would say that most of that time the majority of it was very rewarding and very proud that the Houston Zoo should be included in at least the top 10 zoos in the country. Certainly from the conservation side.