Well, I learned very much from the books of Edgar and I all my time as a director. I, from time to time, looked into what Hegar had said. Otherwise I had in the few first years, very few contacts to my German colleagues. And the one who pulled me into the international society. I mean community was Dick Fond. He spoke to Les Fisher, who was a president at that time. There’s a new man in Germany, we should invite him as an observer, as was at that time. And I behaved quite well.
