And even though there was a fair amount of bureaucracy in the fact that the board met every month. And because they’d never had that, when I became director and they’d never had a balanced budget. Ever. Had to go to the bank at the end of every year to borrow money to meet payroll. They were used to looking at and scrutinizing, even at $10 or five, you know, $5 purchase. It was, it was, and they met once a month, which is soaks up a lot of energy to have a monthly board meeting, is a lot of energy. And we had like 14 standing committees, which is horrible. And, but the good thing is, is that I had some really good advice early on.
