I mean the zoo itself was fun. It was great because I got to do just about everything at one time or another, and it was a great training ground, but the politics, the politics were bad in the city of Columbus. And that’s basically why I, and because Omaha, Nebraska was a lot closer to home. It was a brand new zoo starting up. And frankly, Warren Thomas was there and Warren already had developed a bit of a reputation for not staying hooked in any one place very long. So there was, I admit there was a bit of a calculation that, but if I went to Omaha, Warren was likely to move on before too long, which is about, you know, little over three years after I got there. And he moved on. The zoo was, well when we came to, when we, when Marie and I came to Columbus, the zoo had 10 employees, including me.