Now I looked him straight in the eye and said, every gorilla I’ve ever hauled has been in a crate just like that. I just didn’t tell him it was the first time in my whole life I’d ever transported a gorilla. Didn’t lie. We’d put the tarp back down, flew into Chicago and loaded them onto a truck. You know, another good story was for baby, you know, gorillas or orangs, because we did a bit of transporting, like taking one to Jacksonville, Florida once. The easy way to transport a baby is, is to not run through air freight. Anyway, you just buy, you know, you just take a big carry on bag, punch holes in it. And that was before x-ray.