Well, we did, there were only, as I say, there were only 12 of us that had full time paid jobs. And then there were a lot of guys that were on call. Basically, basically we had a, one of the, one of the guys had a mimeograph machine. And part of the deal was that it cost in those days, $10 for the annual dues to become, to be part of the zoo vet association, if you will. And one, you know, and one paper a year of some kind, you know, one clinical, one clinical report a year. That was the dues. And, and it got, it got mimeographed. If you send it in or a piece of, you know, on a, on a piece of butcher paper, why, you know, that’s the way it kind of came back and it got mimeographed and, and sent around.