So, and so I was, you know, involved with part of that. Then after Houston became the chairman of the committee and the committee was Ulie Seale and myself, we spent a couple of years of not telling anybody what we were doing. And then ultimately brought it to the AZA board, by which time we had spent, I don’t know, we’d spent 90 or $100,000 on developing it when we brought it and tried to get the zoo vet, I mean, the zoo, not zoo vet, but the AZA, the zoo and aquarium board to. It wasn’t AZA then. To put their blessing on it. And that proved to be somewhat difficult. And ultimately we got that done, and, you know, and the. There had been, there had been, well, the Brits, the Brits had tried that once way back and the Germans had tried it.
