They travel well. They live well. Those guys generally don’t fly first class. Early on from a guy that I knew that went to work for one of these groups, and I was a lot younger and a bit naive then. And he asked me if I do some consulting. And I find out, I found out very quickly that, that if you were consulting for one of these groups, you could fly first class and stay in a five star hotel. They live well. I mean, they, they live well and they are really, in my opinion, you know, they’re more, they’re, you know, they’re more interested in altering the way you and I live and the rest of the world lives and, and living in luxury while they’re doing it, than they are in doing something useful for the individual animals.
