Well, I think, yeah, I think, you know, I, I think a lot of zoos are, are really. Number one, if it weren’t for zoos, you know, because there are all kinds of people that will say, hey, if you’d spend this same amount of money on preserving habitat in the wild, you know, think how much better, you know, how much more goods you do. And there’s a, there’s a couple of answers there. Number one, very few zoos and societies, and certainly no governmental zoo could ever spend that same amount of money in the wild. The animals in captivity in the zoo, in addition to, you know, serving as a kind of a safety net are really ambassadors for the animals in the wild. Absolutely. I absolutely believe that if it wasn’t for the fact that you’ve got elephants in zoos and elephants in circuses that people get up close and personal to and bond with, you know, they make that click, that connection, that we wouldn’t have been able, we the world, wouldn’t have been able to pass a ban on ivory. And even though it’s ineffective as far as Asia, because there’s still lots of ivory poaching going on and ivory smuggling in Asia, or rhinos, but elephants in captivity are the ambassadors that have helped save elephants in the wild.
