Well, I, you know, I wasn’t really deeply involved with, you know, with AZA. Was a member, but not really deeply involved with AZA, you know, at the time. And of course it was as a member of the parks. (muttering) It was a fairly ineffective organization and, and by breaking away and, you know, they, I mean the other, you know, the other thing that, that AZA can and should do, and I think we’re at times doing much better than we were in the past, but I mean, to be a, you know, an advocate, a spokesman to the outside world. And I think we’re, you know, I think AZA is doing a, a better job as far as being a spokesman and an advocate and representing the zoo world to the, to the Washington, you know, legislature and all. that of course is, you know, that of course should be the, should be the function. Because as you know, back in the beginning, they really weren’t doing it. It was basically an organization which allowed people to get together and, you know, and exchange ideas and have a forum and get together.
