Well, I think initially, you know, they were a service organization. They supported zoos. Initially. They were a way, they provided the zoos a forum to get together to exchange information, ideas, technology. That was good. And then, you know, then we saw, then we saw the, the, you know, the, the encroachment of the federal government and, and all of the pressure from certainly the, the civil, you know, the, or the animal rights groups, but mostly the federal government and department of interior. And you threw in US Fish and Wildlife and, and all of that. But at other state to, to encroach and control the zoo world and, and recognize that sooner or later somebody was going to want to, you know, license and accredited zoos other than Department of Agriculture.
