No. No. And I think that’s a big problem in that if you lose track, I mean, what zoos are about, what zoos are about are animals and animal husbandry and animal care. I mean, that’s what, you know, that’s, that’s what it’s all about. And, and then if you carry that on conservation and protection of habitat, and the spill over into the types of things that we’re doing today, where you’re actually making an impact on the wild, on conservation research and biology and, and having an impact in situ in the wild. But, I think in a lot of instance, people either drift away from making rounds or maybe they never made rounds in the first place. There are unfortunately a lot of zoo people today who are really not biologists, zoologists, are not really animal people. They don’t have any background in animal husbandry.