I said, and you’ve got knowledgeable people. You have, you, you, you do the interviews, you do the debates, you use examples you make, you’re not just arguing with them. You’re informing everybody on the outside who only sees their argument, only hears their argument because you’re not saying anything. So I’ve always opted for a more, shall we say, aggressive stance. But it in a lot of ways it, it’s a protective stance. I’m proud of what I do. I have no problems with the word zoo or anything like that, which I know a lot of people in the, in the community know, oh, well, you know, it’s not zookeepers anymore, it’s animal caretakers. There’s a, there’s been a whole almost a, a, a hazard to say a woke approach to the terminology we use.
