So there was only a handful of experienced keepers. Then they hired all these university graduates who didn’t know the first thing about working in zoos, but all had very firm opinions of how it should be done. And it was, it was an incredibly frustrating experience. But, well, I got a few things done, got a few big projects, finished master plan for the zoo, hired my successor, and I was headhunted for a place in Canada. And you go to become the Chief Operations Officer, general Cur Mountain View Conservation Center, and you are there for a short period of time, but then you go to the Singapore Zoo. How did the Singapore Zoo come about In 2005, I had a parting of the ways with the owner of Mountain View who’d gone through quite a number of staff before me. Not a pleasant person, not a pleasant experience, and then just trying to get a zoo job. But try, obviously when you’re up to a certain level, it becomes less of a target rich environment.
